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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 03 Apr 2011, 02:30

StevK44 wrote:Hey Vall, I know we talked about it but are you still going to do the branch to my new town Bodrum? Oh and I have some more rails to donate.
i want to but i dont know where it is so thats kind of difficult. :(
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Re: The Subways

Post by trainreqx2 » 03 Apr 2011, 13:53

BLUtropolis (BLUT) would like to apply for a rail. I have mapped out most rails, and I believe that it would be for the best there was a rail going from Corinth to BLUT. The Rail(s) run from East To West, and the z values will be adjusted accordingly so that we can meet up both stations. I also wanna ask if we can link up the Corinth main line, into the BLUT line, because it would mean much less work. I believe the Corinth main line runs through -184(Z value) and would be meeting up with -1136 (The BLUT line) Just thought it would be a pretty awesome project, and maybe you would get some compensation(and so would all the workers)

On a different note, I'd also like to work on helping to make the stations/rails, as I have an extensive subway system on my SSP world (About 3,000 blocks each way, running underground, over water, under water, over mountains, through mountains, and is completely Automatic(Cart storage/holding) With idle cart return, and boosters(No mods used) So it would be a really big honor to be able to work for the Server, and for cities/towns, and do what I love.
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 03 Apr 2011, 14:26

BLUtropis could theoreticly atatch at the Corinh-Branchscape branch station.
please do not try to atatch to my train lines. atatch at the current stations.
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Re: The Subways

Post by Tehbeard » 04 Apr 2011, 05:15

As it stands, Blutropolis will extend the branchscape line, thus linking into the rest of the network via the Corinth station.

As a further note, E.R.T.A henceforth requires knowledge of ALL subway systems, public or private and there status (active, under construction, abandoned). This knowledge will be kept with the strictest confidence and will be used in further planning the subway system (I.e, so as not to hit your private line)


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Rules for subways.
  • All subway lines must be disclosed to E.R.T.A to allow for planning of public subway lines.
  • Town/city/community leaders may ask to connect to the network
  • If accepted for connection, E.R.T.A will determine the best method (new line to a station, extending a line, adding a station), please wait before tunneling for confirmation of the target vector your tunnel should aim for.
  • E.R.T.A Public subway lines must be atleast 3 high and 3 wide, these are to ensure safety of those travelling the lines
  • All subways must be properly lit, and any caves encountered boarded up in such a way as to prevent creepers on the lines.
  • As of April 4th 2011, The minecart plugin used is in a state of development, as such, When other features allowing sorters and redstone launchers come along, stations will be changed to use these. For the moment please do not build lavish stations as this will likely cause further delays in implmenting stations properly.
  • for the moment a station will just have 2+ rails. See above for future plan.
Looking ahead:
The future plan of the subway system, when more features are available, is to enable quick, simple rapid transit between settlements. as an example, a person getting on at fort itl would be able to select a destination station on the line, hop in and go there without further interference. while people may have to change at stations (i.e, fort itl -> BranchScape, via cornith station interchange) it will be an improvement over the current situation of having to get out and in at each station. we will also look into the possibility of switch tracks just outside of stations to see if it's possible to eliminate the need for interchanges.
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 04 Apr 2011, 05:18

we realy need to know of all subways to connect or not and to prevent collisions while mining... if you want to keep it confidential then PM me or TehBeard. we will share the data with each other but not disclose anything to others that you do not tell us too.

thanks guys!
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Re: The Subways

Post by random980 » 04 Apr 2011, 07:20

Val, you dont have to worry about Solar city, me and byroe have already made a train line going from saphiri to Solar City, although i would like to request that the line be connected to your main train network. also from solar i can easily make a line to Blackthorn with donations of rails.
also the line IS above ground as it runs along the main pathway to solar/blackthorn. It starts at the very back of the saphiri docks. (and is only 1 line so far)
also if needed the co ords for solar are -650, 210
(and if you make a new underground line to solar, watch out for spyjosh's branch mine)
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Post by Blackadder51 » 04 Apr 2011, 07:22

I hope you know were IC line is..... I dont =D
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 04 Apr 2011, 08:00

Meatroid wrote:Val, you dont have to worry about Solar city, me and byroe have already made a train line going from saphiri to Solar City, although i would like to request that the line be connected to your main train network. also from solar i can easily make a line to Blackthorn with donations of rails.
also the line IS above ground as it runs along the main pathway to solar/blackthorn. It starts at the very back of the saphiri docks. (and is only 1 line so far)
also if needed the co ords for solar are -650, 210
(and if you make a new underground line to solar, watch out for spyjosh's branch mine)
im cutting to the Saphiri station at -389, -211... about 250 blocks to go to get there (100 north, 150 west)
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Re: The Subways

Post by trainreqx2 » 04 Apr 2011, 10:38

The BLUtropolis/branchscape extension line has an ETA of about a week if I'm mining alone with Spy. We need help, and the server is also derping very hard, so that doesn't help much either :3
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 04 Apr 2011, 11:23

(this is also going in the OP)

ive thrown together a basic map of connections in the style of the london underground map:
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this simply shows the extent of the lines i know of and where they connect.

Black dots are Stations

Red is the Core Line, Turquise is the East Branch, Green is the upcoming Drox Line and Purple is the Imperial Line.

dashed lines represent unfinished or unstarted lines.

this should help travelers to use the subway and builders to see what lines and stations we have.

i will at some point also create an overlay map that shows the positions on the map as well but this Underground style has proved to be the easiest to create and edit so for now this will have to do.

(yes black i know Imperial Line isnt connected. hence why its shown with a seperate station)

IMPORTANT!
if you want me to include your city in the line and i missed it please say so and tell me roughly where it is from spawn so i can work out where best to connect to it.

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Re: The Subways

Post by Tehbeard » 04 Apr 2011, 11:38

My previous post updated with rules for subway construction and future vision.
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 04 Apr 2011, 11:48

aand those rules have been added to the OP. thanks Beard!
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Post by Godavari » 04 Apr 2011, 15:40

Vall, that map is somewhat inaccurate. The BP/Derg line is far from finished. You can walk from one to the other and ride a good portion of the way, but it's far from fully functional. The main issues are a lack of track and the fact that Lefthitdrip's tunnel is only 2x2. Of course you're busy with the other parts of the line, but if you could check that out at some point I would appreciate it. In the mean time, I may start mining for iron.
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Re: The Subways

Post by JamEngulfer221 » 04 Apr 2011, 16:13

A new station:

I know it is very far away, but I think that you should add Darkend to the subway.

The co-ords are: (roughly) (-750,1500).

The line for this could connect through one going to Blackthorn. It could also be a hub station for towns in the far west.

I could also be able to help construct the line for that and possibly other lines too (when I have finished the Darkend one).

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Post by derigin » 04 Apr 2011, 16:32

Godavari wrote:Vall, that map is somewhat inaccurate. The BP/Derg line is far from finished. You can walk from one to the other and ride a good portion of the way, but it's far from fully functional. The main issues are a lack of track and the fact that Lefthitdrip's tunnel is only 2x2. Of course you're busy with the other parts of the line, but if you could check that out at some point I would appreciate it. In the mean time, I may start mining for iron.
I can go ahead and tackle the laying of some of the rest of the track tonight. Though I agree, lefthit's tunnel needs to be expanded.

These tunnels are taking a lot of work. While a single track may be functional sooner than later, the tunnels themselves will need at least a week or so to be hewed out to their final state.

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Re: The Subways

Post by Lefthit » 04 Apr 2011, 17:01

im speaking on behalf of my tunnel. it runs from my house (roughly 1000 blox south directly from spawn) and to borderpost (godavari built a station to the forgotton coast, although my track goes into my mine - kinda a personal pitstop in the future). i laid about 1200 trax down, i just ran out of iron... so if ANYONE wants to expand/ lay down track/ remove gravel/ thats cool with me as long as u dont destroy/grief. as far as connecting to it, u should just ask me in game and ill probably just say go for it. i will eventually make it 3x3. a lot of it is only 2x1 as it was originally intended for personal use.
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Re: The Subways

Post by Sti_Jo_Lew » 04 Apr 2011, 17:30

Awesome. My house is right next to the crossroads station. Good thing I got it cuboided.
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Re: The Subways

Post by Tehbeard » 04 Apr 2011, 17:46

Draconax line has hit a snag, and underground base belonging to crystalise and axmaiman, have to figure out how to re route it.

For the moment I'd like to call a temporary hiatus on adding other lines, you are welcome to post in this topic to declare a town's interest, but please DO NOT START CONSTRUCTION, once the current backlog and land issues are sorted me and Vall should be able to start work with other lines.

Also before I hit the sack i'm uploading a map of the server to dropbox with the subway line drawn on, it follows station connections, not actual track layout. and it's the ones I know about. I will edit as the subway grows.
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Re: The Subways

Post by Hahsime » 04 Apr 2011, 22:09

Here are the tunnels I have dug as part of my mining operation (and a sanctioned connection to the undercity) , they are at level 6.
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Re: The Subways

Post by random980 » 04 Apr 2011, 22:23

VALLORN!
Blackthorn is going to be connected to my line already going from Solar to Saphiri, Also if we do that we are also in range of connecting THAT line to Aurora aswell (if Aurora gives permission). So once you connect to the Saphiri station look for my line out the back of the Saphiri docks and try to connect to it. its about 4 blocks above sea level i think.
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 05 Apr 2011, 02:40

Meatroid wrote:VALLORN!
Blackthorn is going to be connected to my line already going from Solar to Saphiri, Also if we do that we are also in range of connecting THAT line to Aurora aswell (if Aurora gives permission). So once you connect to the Saphiri station look for my line out the back of the Saphiri docks and try to connect to it. its about 4 blocks above sea level i think.
im already at and partly through Saphiri. and 4 blocks ABOVE sea level!? :?
tehbeard wrote: Also before I hit the sack i'm uploading a map of the server to dropbox with the subway line drawn on, it follows station connections, not actual track layout. and it's the ones I know about. I will edit as the subway grows.
ive just seen it Beard its fantastic ( well the Fort Itl Corinth line is a little off but thats to be expected)
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Re: The Subways

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vallorn wrote:
Meatroid wrote:VALLORN!
Blackthorn is going to be connected to my line already going from Solar to Saphiri, Also if we do that we are also in range of connecting THAT line to Aurora aswell (if Aurora gives permission). So once you connect to the Saphiri station look for my line out the back of the Saphiri docks and try to connect to it. its about 4 blocks above sea level i think.
im already at and partly through Saphiri. and 4 blocks ABOVE sea level!? :?
tehbeard wrote: Also before I hit the sack i'm uploading a map of the server to dropbox with the subway line drawn on, it follows station connections, not actual track layout. and it's the ones I know about. I will edit as the subway grows.
ive just seen it Beard its fantastic ( well the Fort Itl Corinth line is a little off but thats to be expected)
err yeah my line isnt under ground. Also me an byroe (and maybe volstag and power) are still debating on whether or not to allow aurora (with their permission) to connect to my train line, as we kind of want that line to connect to USSR towns only. unless aurora would like to be a USSR town.
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Re: The Subways

Post by Tehbeard » 05 Apr 2011, 13:33

Draconax tunnel finished (my god the land is swiss cheese down there), just have to get them to lay track to saphiri.
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Post by vallorn » 05 Apr 2011, 13:45

tehbeard wrote:Draconax tunnel finished (my god the land is swiss cheese down there), just have to get them to lay track to saphiri.
i did both slopes for you before my ISP decided it hated me...

and its more holes than land... (i saw Cyph's cave you grazed :shock: )

i may run a proper SUBWAY Branch Line to Solar from Saphiri....
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Post by aflycon » 05 Apr 2011, 18:44

Vall, is the station to V88 already all finished? I feel bad for not having done any work there yet and I need to do something when I get back. @_@

Also, is it just me or is this going to be the coolest thing we've ever built when it's all done (excluding IC.. maybe)?

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Re: The Subways

Post by Tehbeard » 05 Apr 2011, 19:10

The longest subway line has been completed, Solake <-> The Resort, using the old canal line with a diversion around IC. A 4GB video is currently encoding, showing the tunnel in all it's beauty.

A word of advice, multiple sections of it fall under cuboid, so please don't ride it yet. you can't start at the solake end and we don't need littered minecarts down there, you'll be allowed access when we can guarantee it's usability to all.

A HUGE Thank you to wokka, for assisting with all the cuboids we encountered, and for fixing the derp speed barrier which made recording the video possibru without seeing chunks load sporadicly.
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Re: The Subways

Post by random980 » 06 Apr 2011, 01:10

vallorn wrote:
tehbeard wrote: something about swiss cheese
ISP hating val...
stuff...

i may run a proper SUBWAY Branch Line to Solar from Saphiri....
If you do that feel free to dig up my train line i put above sea level and use those tracks in the new subway leading to solar. As i said before. WATCH OUT FOR SPYJOSH'S HUGE BRANCH MINE!!!
Before you start digging up my train line, tell Byroe BEFORE hand, or endure a massive interrogation.
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EDIT: also my above ground line continues to blackthorn, ask powerfulk about making a subway from solar to blackthorn. IF a subway to blackthorn is made, me and volstag have given the OK to let that continue to Aurora.
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Re: The Subways

Post by vallorn » 06 Apr 2011, 04:21

the main core line is nearly done guys! :D

i just need to do the tracks in the Draconax-Saphiri line... thanks so much for digging that Beard! :D

okay i would realy like to know where the following towns are so i can plan the next stage of this:
Mill City
Darkend
any other town that wants a connection the the network.
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Re: The Subways

Post by Tehbeard » 06 Apr 2011, 05:31

Meatroid wrote:
vallorn wrote:
tehbeard wrote: something about swiss cheese
ISP hating val...
stuff...

i may run a proper SUBWAY Branch Line to Solar from Saphiri....
dig lines.
branch mine
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any chance of looking at this branch mine to see how to avoid it, and also maybe the current rail line?
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Post by JamEngulfer221 » 06 Apr 2011, 09:57

vallorn wrote:the main core line is nearly done guys! :D

i just need to do the tracks in the Draconax-Saphiri line... thanks so much for digging that Beard! :D

okay i would realy like to know where the following towns are so i can plan the next stage of this:
Mill City
Darkend
any other town that wants a connection the the network.
Darkend is roughly at the co-ords: -750, 1500.

There is a road going from Aurora to there, but if you walk there you will be able to see. There is a 41 block wide hole that goes to Bedrock there (it is the main housing block) So you may be able to dig into there and make a station there. (You'd better ask DonkyPoink about all of this first)

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